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Cities: Skylines 2 team apologizes, makes DLC free and promises a fan summit

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A “complete focus on improving the base game” will happen before more paid DLC.

A beach house alone on a large land plot

Enlarge / Like the Beach Properties DLC itself, this property looks a bit unfinished and in need of some focus.

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Perhaps the first clue that something was not quite right about Beach Properties, the first $10 DLC “expansion” for the already off-kilter city-building sim Cities: Skylines 2, was that it did not contain a real beach house, which one might consider a key beach property. The oversight seemed indicative of a content pack that lacked for content.

C:S2‘s developers and publisher now agree and have published a letter to Cities fans, in which they offer apologies, updates, and refunds. Beach Properties is now a free add-on, individual buyers will be refunded (with details at a FAQ page), and Ultimate Edition owners will receive additional Creator Packs and Radio Stations, since partial refunds are tricky across different game stores.

“We thought we could make up for the shortcomings of the game in a timeframe that was unrealistic, and rushed out a DLC that should not have been published in its current form. For all this, we are truly sorry,” reads the letter, signed by the CEOs of developer Colossal Order and publisher Paradox Interactive. “When we’ve made statements like this one before, it’s included a pledge to keep making improvements, and while we are working on these updates, they haven’t happened at a speed or magnitude that is acceptable, and it pains us that we’ve now lost the trust of many of you. We want to do better.”

What will happen next, according to the letter, are changes in how the game is improved and how those improvements are communicated. To wit:

  • A “complete focus on improving the base game and modding tools”
  • Better community involvement in choosing priorities
  • Focusing on free patches and updates ahead of paid content
  • Relatedly pushing “Bridges and Ports” expansion to 2025
  • Shifting Creator Packs work to independent developers
  • An “advisory meeting” between a small group of player representatives with significant followings and developer and publisher heads

For those eager to see the game on consoles, despite all this signaling of how far the base PC game might have to go, the letter offers an update. An “upcoming build delivery in April” should show sufficient optimization progress to move ahead, with “a release build targeted for October.” Yet until they can see the real results, no firm release date can be made. The console team will operate separately from the PC team, however, so it should move ahead “without splitting our focus or time.”

Put together, the C:S2 team’s actions, and plan for the way forward, seem like reasonable ways to make sure their work meets with fans’ expectations. There’s a fair amount of positive feedback to the forum post, however self-selecting “Paradox Forum members” may be. I do wonder if there’s a danger of some owners and fans never considering the game to be “good enough” to not react negatively to paid add-ons showing up in the store. It’s a tricky thing, releasing a game that almost inherently demands a swath of future add-ons, packs, and expansions—the original Cities: Skylines had more than 60 add-ons.

In an interview with Ars, Colossal Order CEO Mariina Hallikainen said that “working on new content for the game” was the thing she most looked forward to, “after, of course, we have sorted outstanding issues.” There are seemingly many more months of sorting to go before the fun new stuff arrives.

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Cities: Skylines 2 gets long-awaited official mod support and map editor

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Modding was seen as the most important next step by developer’s leader.

View of a rooftop terrace with sun umbrella in Cities: Skylines 2's Beach Properties expansion.

Enlarge / Kudos to the designer of this umbrella-shaded rooftop terrace at Colossal Order, perhaps the only worker who can imagine a place that isn’t overwhelmed by Steam reviewers.

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Under the very unassuming name of patch 1.1.0f1, Cities: Skylines 2 is getting something quite big. The sequel now has the modding, map editing, and code modding support that made its predecessor such a sprawling success.

Only time will tell if community energy can help restore some of the momentum that has been dispersed by the fraught launch of Cities: Skylines 2 (C:S2). The project of relatively small developer Colossal Order arrived in October 2023 with performance issues and a lack of content compared to its predecessor. Some of that content perception stemmed from the game’s lack of modding support, which had contributed to entire aspects of the original game not yet available in the sequel.

When Ars interviewed Colossal Order CEO Mariina Hallikainen in December, she said that modding support was the thing she was most looking forward to arriving. Modding support was intended to be available at launch, but the challenges of building the new game’s technical base, amid many other technical issues, pushed it back, along with console releases.

“[W]e can’t wait to have the support out there, so we can have the modding community ‘fully unleashed,'” Hallikainen said then. “Because I know they are waiting to get to work. They are actually already at it, but this will make it easier. … We just can’t wait to give them the full set of tools.” She noted that character modding, a “technically difficult thing to support,” would arrive further out, and indeed, asset modding is listed as “available later this year.”

The base-level modding support is now available, though in “Beta” and in a different form than fans are used to. Instead of working through Steam Workshop, C:S2 mods will be available through Paradox Mods to support console players. There are, of course, issues at launch, including slowdown with the in-game mod browser. Most non-incensed commenters and reviewers consider the tools themselves to be an upgrade over the prior game’s editing suite.

In addition to making mods, the in-game mod tools should make it easier to load preset “Playsets” of mod combinations. We’ll have to see how long it takes assets like Spaghetti Junction, the most popular mod for the original Cities: Skylines, to arrive in C:S2 so that all may experience the municipal engineering regrets of Birmingham, England.

Along with modding tools, Colossal Order issued some of its first proper DLC for C:S2. Beach Properties, an asset pack, adds both North American and European waterfront zoning and buildings, palm trees, and six signature buildings. There’s also a Deluxe Relax Station that puts 16 new songs and DJ patter on the soundtrack. The recent patch also contains a number of optimizations and bug fixes. Steam reviewers and Paradox forum members are asking why the beach DLC doesn’t contain actual beaches.

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An Interview with Cities: Skylines 2 developer’s CEO, Mariina Hallikainen

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A hugely successful early game can become a developer’s own worst enemy.

Colossal Order CEO Mariina Hallikainen

Enlarge / Colossal Order CEO Mariina Hallikainen, from the company’s “Winter Recap” video.

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It’s not often you see the CEO of a developer suggest their game is “cursed” in an official, professionally produced video, let alone a video released to celebrate that game. But Colossal Order is not a typical developer. And Cities: Skylines 2 has not had anything close to a typical release.

In a “Winter Recap” video up today for Cities: Skylines 2 (C:S2), CEO Mariina Hallikainen says that her company’s goal was to prevent the main issue they had with the original Cities: Skylines: continuing work on a game that was “not a technical masterpiece” for 10 years or more. The goal with C:S2 was to use the very latest technology and build everything new.

“We are trying to make a city-building game that will last for a decade,” Hallikainen says in the video. “People didn’t understand; we aren’t using anything from Cities: Skylines. We’re actually building everything new.” Henri Haimakainen, game designer, says Colossal Order is “like fighting against ourselves, in a way. We are our own worst competition,” in trying to deliver not only the original game, but more.

Cities: Skylines 2‘s Winter Recap, with reaction to the game’s launch from staff and plans for future updates, including performance improvement and a forthcoming expansion pack.

“Everything new” and “more” has often meant “not optimal,” as we noted after the game’s launch. It has led to some remarkable candor from the developer, and its publisher. Madeleine Jonsson, community manager at publisher Paradox Interactive, says that in order to work with players’ feedback about the game, “we have to just speak about these things insanely candidly.” That’s why, in last week’s patch notes, and Colossal Order’s “CO Word of the Week,” players can read not just about the typical “major bug fixes and performance improvements,” but that Cities: Skylines 2 (C:S2) should see better performance in areas with lots of pedestrians—and, “yes, they now have level of detail (LOD) models.”

Just before Colossal Order issued that patch and went on holiday break, Hallikainen spoke with Ars at length about offering up that kind of gritty detail to players, the decision to release C:S2, the difficulty of following up a game that saw nearly 10 years of active development and more than 60 downloadable content packs, and more on the specific issues the team is working with players to improve. And why, out of everything that’s coming up for C:S2—including a Ports and Bridges expansion—modding support is perhaps the most exciting for her.

Modding, something the Cities: Skylines community has already started without any official tools, will further reveal the promise of the simulation her team has been working on for years. And, presumably, it’s a chance to look forward to something exciting and unknown rather than pull things from the past forward for re-examination—like I essentially asked Hallikainen to do, repeatedly.

The interview has been edited and condensed for clarity. It was conducted on December 12 between Hallikainen in Finland and the author in the Eastern US.

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