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How strong is New York’s “illegal gambling” case against Valve’s loot boxes?

“Calling it gambling because a user could, through several indirect steps, convert an item into cash risks stretching gambling law beyond its traditional limits,” Loiterman said. “If New York’s theory wins, it raises uncomfortable questions about things like Pokémon cards or promotional games (e.g. McDonald’s Monopoly). Courts will be cautious about going that far.”

New York also argues that Valve tacitly endorses third-party services that allow players to easily “cash out” their Steam inventories for real money. Whether Valve is culpable for the existence of those services is still an unsettled question in the law, Methenitis said, as it has been at least since he wrote about the legal implications of World of Warcraft‘s third-party gold resellers nearly two decades ago.

“I think companies have a pretty strong [legal] argument if they make some attempts to police [third-party resellers]—they obviously can’t fully control what people do outside their platform,” Methenitis said. “But if they turn a blind eye to it and allow it, I think they could be found liable.” Loiterman agreed that Valve “providing the tools that enable those [third-party] markets and tolerating them creates some degree of responsibility.”

“Judges tend to be cautious…”

In the end, the lawyers Ars spoke to were generally skeptical that courts would determine that Valve’s loot box system constitutes illegal gambling. Cases making similar arguments about other loot box systems have failed in other jurisdictions, “in part because gambling laws were drafted with casinos and lotteries in mind,” Loiterman said. “Judges tend to be cautious about breaking from an emerging consensus.”

Hoeg agreed that “the entire question [in this case] is novel, and… the courts are (small-‘c’) conservative institutions, not generally wanting to adopt novel arguments without direction from the legislative branches.” Even if Valve’s loot box system “may start to smell a bit like gambling,” Hoeg said he would “honestly be surprised if the courts went along with the characterization without a new law aimed at it.”

“I view it as a weak case offered primarily for political grandstanding/coverage over real legal effect,” Hoeg concluded. “We shall see, though.”

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Balatro yet again subject to mods’ poor understanding of “gambling”

Balatro is certainly habit-forming, but there’s nothing to be won or lost, other than time, by playing it. While the game has you using standard playing cards and poker hands as part of its base mechanics, it does not have in-app purchases, loot boxes, or any kind of online play or enticement to gambling, beyond the basics of risk and reward.

Yet many YouTube creators have had their Balatro videos set to the traffic-dropping “Age-restricted” status, allegedly due to “depictions or promotions of casino websites or apps,” with little recourse for appeal.

The Balatro University channel detailed YouTube’s recent concerns about “online gambling” in a video posted last weekend. Under policies that took effect March 19, YouTube no longer allows any reference to gambling sites or applications “not certified by Google.” Additionally, content with “online gambling content”—”excluding online sports betting and depictions of in-person gambling”—cannot be seen by anyone signed out of YouTube or registered as under 18 years old.

Balatro University’s primer on how more than 100 of his videos about Balatro suddenly became age-restricted.

“The problem is,” Balatro University’s host notes, “Balatro doesn’t have any gambling.” Balatro University reported YouTube placing age restrictions on 119 of his 606 videos, some of them having been up for more than a year. After receiving often confusingly worded notices from YouTube, the channel host filed 30 appeals, 24 of which were rejected. Some of the last messaging from YouTube to Balatro University, from likely outdated and improperly cross-linked guidance, implied that his videos were restricted because they show “harmful or dangerous activities that risk serious physical harm.”

Screen from the game Balatro, showing a pair hand with two

Balatro, while based on poker hands, involving chips and evoking some aspects of video poker or casinos, only has you winning money that buys you cards and upgrades in the game.

Credit: Playstack

Balatro, while based on poker hands, involving chips and evoking some aspects of video poker or casinos, only has you winning money that buys you cards and upgrades in the game. Credit: Playstack

Developer LocalThunk took to social network Bluesky with some exasperation. “Good thing we are protecting children from knowing what a 4 of a kind is and letting them watch CS case opening videos instead,” he wrote, referencing the popularity of videos showing Counter-Strike “cases” with weapon skins being opened.

Apparently Balatro videos are being rated 18+ on YouTube now for gambling

Good thing we are protecting children from knowing what a 4 of a kind is and letting them watch CS case opening videos instead

— localthunk (@localthunk.bsky.social) April 5, 2025 at 4: 39 PM

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