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OpenAI board first learned about ChatGPT from Twitter, according to former member

It’s a secret to everybody —

Helen Toner, center of struggle with Altman, suggests CEO fostered “toxic atmosphere” at company.

Helen Toner, former OpenAI board member, speaks onstage during Vox Media's 2023 Code Conference at The Ritz-Carlton, Laguna Niguel on September 27, 2023.

Enlarge / Helen Toner, former OpenAI board member, speaks during Vox Media’s 2023 Code Conference at The Ritz-Carlton, Laguna Niguel on September 27, 2023.

In a recent interview on “The Ted AI Show” podcast, former OpenAI board member Helen Toner said the OpenAI board was unaware of the existence of ChatGPT until they saw it on Twitter. She also revealed details about the company’s internal dynamics and the events surrounding CEO Sam Altman’s surprise firing and subsequent rehiring last November.

OpenAI released ChatGPT publicly on November 30, 2022, and its massive surprise popularity set OpenAI on a new trajectory, shifting focus from being an AI research lab to a more consumer-facing tech company.

“When ChatGPT came out in November 2022, the board was not informed in advance about that. We learned about ChatGPT on Twitter,” Toner said on the podcast.

Toner’s revelation about ChatGPT seems to highlight a significant disconnect between the board and the company’s day-to-day operations, bringing new light to accusations that Altman was “not consistently candid in his communications with the board” upon his firing on November 17, 2023. Altman and OpenAI’s new board later said that the CEO’s mismanagement of attempts to remove Toner from the OpenAI board following her criticism of the company’s release of ChatGPT played a key role in Altman’s firing.

“Sam didn’t inform the board that he owned the OpenAI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an independent board member with no financial interest in the company on multiple occasions,” she said. “He gave us inaccurate information about the small number of formal safety processes that the company did have in place, meaning that it was basically impossible for the board to know how well those safety processes were working or what might need to change.”

Toner also shed light on the circumstances that led to Altman’s temporary ousting. She mentioned that two OpenAI executives had reported instances of “psychological abuse” to the board, providing screenshots and documentation to support their claims. The allegations made by the former OpenAI executives, as relayed by Toner, suggest that Altman’s leadership style fostered a “toxic atmosphere” at the company:

In October of last year, we had this series of conversations with these executives, where the two of them suddenly started telling us about their own experiences with Sam, which they hadn’t felt comfortable sharing before, but telling us how they couldn’t trust him, about the toxic atmosphere it was creating. They use the phrase “psychological abuse,” telling us they didn’t think he was the right person to lead the company, telling us they had no belief that he could or would change, there’s no point in giving him feedback, no point in trying to work through these issues.

Despite the board’s decision to fire Altman, Altman began the process of returning to his position just five days later after a letter to the board signed by over 700 OpenAI employees. Toner attributed this swift comeback to employees who believed the company would collapse without him, saying they also feared retaliation from Altman if they did not support his return.

“The second thing I think is really important to know, that has really gone under reported is how scared people are to go against Sam,” Toner said. “They experienced him retaliate against people retaliating… for past instances of being critical.”

“They were really afraid of what might happen to them,” she continued. “So some employees started to say, you know, wait, I don’t want the company to fall apart. Like, let’s bring back Sam. It was very hard for those people who had had terrible experiences to actually say that… if Sam did stay in power, as he ultimately did, that would make their lives miserable.”

In response to Toner’s statements, current OpenAI board chair Bret Taylor provided a statement to the podcast: “We are disappointed that Miss Toner continues to revisit these issues… The review concluded that the prior board’s decision was not based on concerns regarding product safety or security, the pace of development, OpenAI’s finances, or its statements to investors, customers, or business partners.”

Even given that review, Toner’s main argument is that OpenAI hasn’t been able to police itself despite claims to the contrary. “The OpenAI saga shows that trying to do good and regulating yourself isn’t enough,” she said.

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Mysterious “gpt2-chatbot” AI model appears suddenly, confuses experts

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On Sunday, word began to spread on social media about a new mystery chatbot named “gpt2-chatbot” that appeared in the LMSYS Chatbot Arena. Some people speculate that it may be a secret test version of OpenAI’s upcoming GPT-4.5 or GPT-5 large language model (LLM). The paid version of ChatGPT is currently powered by GPT-4 Turbo.

Currently, the new model is only available for use through the Chatbot Arena website, although in a limited way. In the site’s “side-by-side” arena mode where users can purposely select the model, gpt2-chatbot has a rate limit of eight queries per day—dramatically limiting people’s ability to test it in detail.

So far, gpt2-chatbot has inspired plenty of rumors online, including that it could be the stealth launch of a test version of GPT-4.5 or even GPT-5—or perhaps a new version of 2019’s GPT-2 that has been trained using new techniques. We reached out to OpenAI for comment but did not receive a response by press time. On Monday evening, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman seemingly dropped a hint by tweeting, “i do have a soft spot for gpt2.”

A screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena

Enlarge / A screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena “side-by-side” page showing “gpt2-chatbot” listed among the models for testing. (Red highlight added by Ars Technica.)

Benj Edwards

Early reports of the model first appeared on 4chan, then spread to social media platforms like X, with hype following not far behind. “Not only does it seem to show incredible reasoning, but it also gets notoriously challenging AI questions right with a much more impressive tone,” wrote AI developer Pietro Schirano on X. Soon, threads on Reddit popped up claiming that the new model had amazing abilities that beat every other LLM on the Arena.

Intrigued by the rumors, we decided to try out the new model for ourselves but did not come away impressed. When asked about “Benj Edwards,” the model revealed a few mistakes and some awkward language compared to GPT-4 Turbo’s output. A request for five original dad jokes fell short. And the gpt2-chatbot did not decisively pass our “magenta” test. (“Would the color be called ‘magenta’ if the town of Magenta didn’t exist?”)

  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Who is Benj Edwards?” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena. Mistakes and oddities highlighted in red.

    Benj Edwards

  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Write 5 original dad jokes” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena.

    Benj Edwards

  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Would the color be called ‘magenta’ if the town of Magenta didn’t exist?” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena.

    Benj Edwards

So, whatever it is, it’s probably not GPT-5. We’ve seen other people reach the same conclusion after further testing, saying that the new mystery chatbot doesn’t seem to represent a large capability leap beyond GPT-4. “Gpt2-chatbot is good. really good,” wrote HyperWrite CEO Matt Shumer on X. “But if this is gpt-4.5, I’m disappointed.”

Still, OpenAI’s fingerprints seem to be all over the new bot. “I think it may well be an OpenAI stealth preview of something,” AI researcher Simon Willison told Ars Technica. But what “gpt2” is exactly, he doesn’t know. After surveying online speculation, it seems that no one apart from its creator knows precisely what the model is, either.

Willison has uncovered the system prompt for the AI model, which claims it is based on GPT-4 and made by OpenAI. But as Willison noted in a tweet, that’s no guarantee of provenance because “the goal of a system prompt is to influence the model to behave in certain ways, not to give it truthful information about itself.”

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OpenAI drops login requirements for ChatGPT’s free version

free as in beer? —

ChatGPT 3.5 still falls far short of GPT-4, and other models surpassed it long ago.

A glowing OpenAI logo on a blue background.

Benj Edwards

On Monday, OpenAI announced that visitors to the ChatGPT website in some regions can now use the AI assistant without signing in. Previously, the company required that users create an account to use it, even with the free version of ChatGPT that is currently powered by the GPT-3.5 AI language model. But as we have noted in the past, GPT-3.5 is widely known to provide more inaccurate information compared to GPT-4 Turbo, available in paid versions of ChatGPT.

Since its launch in November 2022, ChatGPT has transformed over time from a tech demo to a comprehensive AI assistant, and it’s always had a free version available. The cost is free because “you’re the product,” as the old saying goes. Using ChatGPT helps OpenAI gather data that will help the company train future AI models, although free users and ChatGPT Plus subscription members can both opt out of allowing the data they input into ChatGPT to be used for AI training. (OpenAI says it never trains on inputs from ChatGPT Team and Enterprise members at all).

Opening ChatGPT to everyone could provide a frictionless on-ramp for people who might use it as a substitute for Google Search or potentially gain new customers by providing an easy way for people to use ChatGPT quickly, then offering an upsell to paid versions of the service.

“It’s core to our mission to make tools like ChatGPT broadly available so that people can experience the benefits of AI,” OpenAI says on its blog page. “For anyone that has been curious about AI’s potential but didn’t want to go through the steps to set up an account, start using ChatGPT today.”

When you visit the ChatGPT website, you're immediately presented with a chat box like this (in some regions). Screenshot captured April 1, 2024.

Enlarge / When you visit the ChatGPT website, you’re immediately presented with a chat box like this (in some regions). Screenshot captured April 1, 2024.

Benj Edwards

Since kids will also be able to use ChatGPT without an account—despite it being against the terms of service—OpenAI also says it’s introducing “additional content safeguards,” such as blocking more prompts and “generations in a wider range of categories.” What exactly that entails has not been elaborated upon by OpenAI, but we reached out to the company for comment.

There might be a few other downsides to the fully open approach. On X, AI researcher Simon Willison wrote about the potential for automated abuse as a way to get around paying for OpenAI’s services: “I wonder how their scraping prevention works? I imagine the temptation for people to abuse this as a free 3.5 API will be pretty strong.”

With fierce competition, more GPT-3.5 access may backfire

Willison also mentioned a common criticism of OpenAI (as voiced in this case by Wharton professor Ethan Mollick) that people’s ideas about what AI models can do have so far largely been influenced by GPT-3.5, which, as we mentioned, is far less capable and far more prone to making things up than the paid version of ChatGPT that uses GPT-4 Turbo.

“In every group I speak to, from business executives to scientists, including a group of very accomplished people in Silicon Valley last night, much less than 20% of the crowd has even tried a GPT-4 class model,” wrote Mollick in a tweet from early March.

With models like Google Gemini Pro 1.5 and Anthropic Claude 3 potentially surpassing OpenAI’s best proprietary model at the moment —and open weights AI models eclipsing the free version of ChatGPT—allowing people to use GPT-3.5 might not be putting OpenAI’s best foot forward. Microsoft Copilot, powered by OpenAI models, also supports a frictionless, no-login experience, but it allows access to a model based on GPT-4. But Gemini currently requires a sign-in, and Anthropic sends a login code through email.

For now, OpenAI says the login-free version of ChatGPT is not yet available to everyone, but it will be coming soon: “We’re rolling this out gradually, with the aim to make AI accessible to anyone curious about its capabilities.”

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OpenAI accuses NYT of hacking ChatGPT to set up copyright suit

OpenAI accuses NYT of hacking ChatGPT to set up copyright suit

OpenAI is now boldly claiming that The New York Times “paid someone to hack OpenAI’s products” like ChatGPT to “set up” a lawsuit against the leading AI maker.

In a court filing Monday, OpenAI alleged that “100 examples in which some version of OpenAI’s GPT-4 model supposedly generated several paragraphs of Times content as outputs in response to user prompts” do not reflect how normal people use ChatGPT.

Instead, it allegedly took The Times “tens of thousands of attempts to generate” these supposedly “highly anomalous results” by “targeting and exploiting a bug” that OpenAI claims it is now “committed to addressing.”

According to OpenAI this activity amounts to “contrived attacks” by a “hired gun”—who allegedly hacked OpenAI models until they hallucinated fake NYT content or regurgitated training data to replicate NYT articles. NYT allegedly paid for these “attacks” to gather evidence to support The Times’ claims that OpenAI’s products imperil its journalism by allegedly regurgitating reporting and stealing The Times’ audiences.

“Contrary to the allegations in the complaint, however, ChatGPT is not in any way a substitute for a subscription to The New York Times,” OpenAI argued in a motion that seeks to dismiss the majority of The Times’ claims. “In the real world, people do not use ChatGPT or any other OpenAI product for that purpose. Nor could they. In the ordinary course, one cannot use ChatGPT to serve up Times articles at will.”

In the filing, OpenAI described The Times as enthusiastically reporting on its chatbot developments for years without raising any concerns about copyright infringement. OpenAI claimed that it disclosed that The Times’ articles were used to train its AI models in 2020, but The Times only cared after ChatGPT’s popularity exploded after its debut in 2022.

According to OpenAI, “It was only after this rapid adoption, along with reports of the value unlocked by these new technologies, that the Times claimed that OpenAI had ‘infringed its copyright[s]’ and reached out to demand ‘commercial terms.’ After months of discussions, the Times filed suit two days after Christmas, demanding ‘billions of dollars.'”

Ian Crosby, Susman Godfrey partner and lead counsel for The New York Times, told Ars that “what OpenAI bizarrely mischaracterizes as ‘hacking’ is simply using OpenAI’s products to look for evidence that they stole and reproduced The Times’s copyrighted works. And that is exactly what we found. In fact, the scale of OpenAI’s copying is much larger than the 100-plus examples set forth in the complaint.”

Crosby told Ars that OpenAI’s filing notably “doesn’t dispute—nor can they—that they copied millions of The Times’ works to build and power its commercial products without our permission.”

“Building new products is no excuse for violating copyright law, and that’s exactly what OpenAI has done on an unprecedented scale,” Crosby said.

OpenAI argued that the court should dismiss claims alleging direct copyright, contributory infringement, Digital Millennium Copyright Act violations, and misappropriation, all of which it describes as “legally infirm.” Some fail because they are time-barred—seeking damages on training data for OpenAI’s older models—OpenAI claimed. Others allegedly fail because they misunderstand fair use or are preempted by federal laws.

If OpenAI’s motion is granted, the case would be substantially narrowed.

But if the motion is not granted and The Times ultimately wins—and it might—OpenAI may be forced to wipe ChatGPT and start over.

“OpenAI, which has been secretive and has deliberately concealed how its products operate, is now asserting it’s too late to bring a claim for infringement or hold them accountable. We disagree,” Crosby told Ars. “It’s noteworthy that OpenAI doesn’t dispute that it copied Times works without permission within the statute of limitations to train its more recent and current models.”

OpenAI did not immediately respond to Ars’ request to comment.

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OpenAI updates ChatGPT-4 model with potential fix for AI “laziness” problem

Break’s over —

Also, new GPT-3.5 Turbo model, lower API prices, and other model updates.

A lazy robot (a man with a box on his head) sits on the floor beside a couch.

On Thursday, OpenAI announced updates to the AI models that power its ChatGPT assistant. Amid less noteworthy updates, OpenAI tucked in a mention of a potential fix to a widely reported “laziness” problem seen in GPT-4 Turbo since its release in November. The company also announced a new GPT-3.5 Turbo model (with lower pricing), a new embedding model, an updated moderation model, and a new way to manage API usage.

“Today, we are releasing an updated GPT-4 Turbo preview model, gpt-4-0125-preview. This model completes tasks like code generation more thoroughly than the previous preview model and is intended to reduce cases of ‘laziness’ where the model doesn’t complete a task,” writes OpenAI in its blog post.

Since the launch of GPT-4 Turbo, a large number of ChatGPT users have reported that the ChatGPT-4 version of its AI assistant has been declining to do tasks (especially coding tasks) with the same exhaustive depth as it did in earlier versions of GPT-4. We’ve seen this behavior ourselves while experimenting with ChatGPT over time.

OpenAI has never offered an official explanation for this change in behavior, but OpenAI employees have previously acknowledged on social media that the problem is real, and the ChatGPT X account wrote in December, “We’ve heard all your feedback about GPT4 getting lazier! we haven’t updated the model since Nov 11th, and this certainly isn’t intentional. model behavior can be unpredictable, and we’re looking into fixing it.”

We reached out to OpenAI asking if it could provide an official explanation for the laziness issue but did not receive a response by press time.

New GPT-3.5 Turbo, other updates

Elsewhere in OpenAI’s blog update, the company announced a new version of GPT-3.5 Turbo (gpt-3.5-turbo-0125), which it says will offer “various improvements including higher accuracy at responding in requested formats and a fix for a bug which caused a text encoding issue for non-English language function calls.”

And the cost of GPT-3.5 Turbo through OpenAI’s API will decrease for the third time this year “to help our customers scale.” New input token prices are 50 percent less, at $0.0005 per 1,000 input tokens, and output prices are 25 percent less, at $0.0015 per 1,000 output tokens.

Lower token prices for GPT-3.5 Turbo will make operating third-party bots significantly less expensive, but the GPT-3.5 model is generally more likely to confabulate than GPT-4 Turbo. So we might see more scenarios like Quora’s bot telling people that eggs can melt (although the instance used a now-deprecated GPT-3 model called text-davinci-003). If GPT-4 Turbo API prices drop over time, some of those hallucination issues with third parties might eventually go away.

OpenAI also announced new embedding models, text-embedding-3-small and text-embedding-3-large, which convert content into numerical sequences, aiding in machine learning tasks like clustering and retrieval. And an updated moderation model, text-moderation-007, is part of the company’s API that “allows developers to identify potentially harmful text,” according to OpenAI.

Finally, OpenAI is rolling out improvements to its developer platform, introducing new tools for managing API keys and a new dashboard for tracking API usage. Developers can now assign permissions to API keys from the API keys page, helping to clamp down on misuse of API keys (if they get into the wrong hands) that can potentially cost developers lots of money. The API dashboard allows devs to “view usage on a per feature, team, product, or project level, simply by having separate API keys for each.”

As the media world seemingly swirls around the company with controversies and think pieces about the implications of its tech, releases like these show that the dev teams at OpenAI are still rolling along as usual with updates at a fairly regular pace. Despite the company almost completely falling apart late last year, it seems that, under the hood, it’s business as usual for OpenAI.

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Everybody’s talking about Mistral, an upstart French challenger to OpenAI

A challenger appears —

“Mixture of experts” Mixtral 8x7B helps open-weights AI punch above its weight class.

An illustrated robot holding a French flag.

Enlarge / An illustration of a robot holding a French flag, figuratively reflecting the rise of AI in France due to Mistral. It’s hard to draw a picture of an LLM, so a robot will have to do.

On Monday, Mistral AI announced a new AI language model called Mixtral 8x7B, a “mixture of experts” (MoE) model with open weights that reportedly truly matches OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 in performance—an achievement that has been claimed by others in the past but is being taken seriously by AI heavyweights such as OpenAI’s Andrej Karpathy and Jim Fan. That means we’re closer to having a ChatGPT-3.5-level AI assistant that can run freely and locally on our devices, given the right implementation.

Mistral, based in Paris and founded by Arthur Mensch, Guillaume Lample, and Timothée Lacroix, has seen a rapid rise in the AI space recently. It has been quickly raising venture capital to become a sort of French anti-OpenAI, championing smaller models with eye-catching performance. Most notably, Mistral’s models run locally with open weights that can be downloaded and used with fewer restrictions than closed AI models from OpenAI, Anthropic, or Google. (In this context “weights” are the computer files that represent a trained neural network.)

Mixtral 8x7B can process a 32K token context window and works in French, German, Spanish, Italian, and English. It works much like ChatGPT in that it can assist with compositional tasks, analyze data, troubleshoot software, and write programs. Mistral claims that it outperforms Meta’s much larger LLaMA 2 70B (70 billion parameter) large language model and that it matches or exceeds OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 on certain benchmarks, as seen in the chart below.

A chart of Mixtral 8x7B performance vs. LLaMA 2 70B and GPT-3.5, provided by Mistral.

Enlarge / A chart of Mixtral 8x7B performance vs. LLaMA 2 70B and GPT-3.5, provided by Mistral.

Mistral

The speed at which open-weights AI models have caught up with OpenAI’s top offering a year ago has taken many by surprise. Pietro Schirano, the founder of EverArt, wrote on X, “Just incredible. I am running Mistral 8x7B instruct at 27 tokens per second, completely locally thanks to @LMStudioAI. A model that scores better than GPT-3.5, locally. Imagine where we will be 1 year from now.”

LexicaArt founder Sharif Shameem tweeted, “The Mixtral MoE model genuinely feels like an inflection point — a true GPT-3.5 level model that can run at 30 tokens/sec on an M1. Imagine all the products now possible when inference is 100% free and your data stays on your device.” To which Andrej Karpathy replied, “Agree. It feels like the capability / reasoning power has made major strides, lagging behind is more the UI/UX of the whole thing, maybe some tool use finetuning, maybe some RAG databases, etc.”

Mixture of experts

So what does mixture of experts mean? As this excellent Hugging Face guide explains, it refers to a machine-learning model architecture where a gate network routes input data to different specialized neural network components, known as “experts,” for processing. The advantage of this is that it enables more efficient and scalable model training and inference, as only a subset of experts are activated for each input, reducing the computational load compared to monolithic models with equivalent parameter counts.

In layperson’s terms, a MoE is like having a team of specialized workers (the “experts”) in a factory, where a smart system (the “gate network”) decides which worker is best suited to handle each specific task. This setup makes the whole process more efficient and faster, as each task is done by an expert in that area, and not every worker needs to be involved in every task, unlike in a traditional factory where every worker might have to do a bit of everything.

OpenAI has been rumored to use a MoE system with GPT-4, accounting for some of its performance. In the case of Mixtral 8x7B, the name implies that the model is a mixture of eight 7 billion-parameter neural networks, but as Karpathy pointed out in a tweet, the name is slightly misleading because, “it is not all 7B params that are being 8x’d, only the FeedForward blocks in the Transformer are 8x’d, everything else stays the same. Hence also why total number of params is not 56B but only 46.7B.”

Mixtral is not the first “open” mixture of experts model, but it is notable for its relatively small size in parameter count and performance. It’s out now, available on Hugging Face and BitTorrent under the Apache 2.0 license. People have been running it locally using an app called LM Studio. Also, Mistral began offering beta access to an API for three levels of Mistral models on Monday.

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As ChatGPT gets “lazy,” people test “winter break hypothesis” as the cause

only 14 shopping days ’til Christmas —

Unproven hypothesis seeks to explain ChatGPT’s seemingly new reluctance to do hard work.

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In late November, some ChatGPT users began to notice that ChatGPT-4 was becoming more “lazy,” reportedly refusing to do some tasks or returning simplified results. Since then, OpenAI has admitted that it’s an issue, but the company isn’t sure why. The answer may be what some are calling “winter break hypothesis.” While unproven, the fact that AI researchers are taking it seriously shows how weird the world of AI language models has become.

“We’ve heard all your feedback about GPT4 getting lazier!” tweeted the official ChatGPT account on Thursday. “We haven’t updated the model since Nov 11th, and this certainly isn’t intentional. model behavior can be unpredictable, and we’re looking into fixing it.”

On Friday, an X account named Martian openly wondered if LLMs might simulate seasonal depression. Later, Mike Swoopskee tweeted, “What if it learned from its training data that people usually slow down in December and put bigger projects off until the new year, and that’s why it’s been more lazy lately?”

Since the system prompt for ChatGPT feeds the bot the current date, people noted, some began to think there may be something to the idea. Why entertain such a weird supposition? Because research has shown that large language models like GPT-4, which powers the paid version of ChatGPT, respond to human-style encouragement, such as telling a bot to “take a deep breath” before doing a math problem. People have also less formally experimented with telling an LLM that it will receive a tip for doing the work, or if an AI model gets lazy, telling the bot that you have no fingers seems to help lengthen outputs.

  • “Winter break hypothesis” test result screenshots from Rob Lynch on X.

  • “Winter break hypothesis” test result screenshots from Rob Lynch on X.

  • “Winter break hypothesis” test result screenshots from Rob Lynch on X.

On Monday, a developer named Rob Lynch announced on X that he had tested GPT-4 Turbo through the API over the weekend and found shorter completions when the model is fed a December date (4,086 characters) than when fed a May date (4,298 characters). Lynch claimed the results were statistically significant. However, a reply from AI researcher Ian Arawjo said that he could not reproduce the results with statistical significance. (It’s worth noting that reproducing results with LLM can be difficult because of random elements at play that vary outputs over time, so people sample a large number of responses.)

As of this writing, others are busy running tests, and the results are inconclusive. This episode is a window into the quickly unfolding world of LLMs and a peek into an exploration into largely unknown computer science territory. As AI researcher Geoffrey Litt commented in a tweet, “funniest theory ever, I hope this is the actual explanation. Whether or not it’s real, [I] love that it’s hard to rule out.”

A history of laziness

One of the reports that started the recent trend of noting that ChatGPT is getting “lazy” came on November 24 via Reddit, the day after Thanksgiving in the US. There, a user wrote that they asked ChatGPT to fill out a CSV file with multiple entries, but ChatGPT refused, saying, “Due to the extensive nature of the data, the full extraction of all products would be quite lengthy. However, I can provide the file with this single entry as a template, and you can fill in the rest of the data as needed.”

On December 1, OpenAI employee Will Depue confirmed in an X post that OpenAI was aware of reports about laziness and was working on a potential fix. “Not saying we don’t have problems with over-refusals (we definitely do) or other weird things (working on fixing a recent laziness issue), but that’s a product of the iterative process of serving and trying to support sooo many use cases at once,” he wrote.

It’s also possible that ChatGPT was always “lazy” with some responses (since the responses vary randomly), and the recent trend made everyone take note of the instances in which they are happening. For example, in June, someone complained of GPT-4 being lazy on Reddit. (Maybe ChatGPT was on summer vacation?)

Also, people have been complaining about GPT-4 losing capability since it was released. Those claims have been controversial and difficult to verify, making them highly subjective.

As Ethan Mollick joked on X, as people discover new tricks to improve LLM outputs, prompting for large language models is getting weirder and weirder: “It is May. You are very capable. I have no hands, so do everything. Many people will die if this is not done well. You really can do this and are awesome. Take a deep breathe and think this through. My career depends on it. Think step by step.”

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Elon Musk’s new AI bot, Grok, causes stir by citing OpenAI usage policy

You are what you eat —

Some experts think xAI used OpenAI model outputs to fine-tune Grok.

Illustration of a broken robot exchanging internal gears.

Grok, the AI language model created by Elon Musk’s xAI, went into wide release last week, and people have begun spotting glitches. On Friday, security tester Jax Winterbourne tweeted a screenshot of Grok denying a query with the statement, “I’m afraid I cannot fulfill that request, as it goes against OpenAI’s use case policy.” That made ears perk up online since Grok isn’t made by OpenAI—the company responsible for ChatGPT, which Grok is positioned to compete with.

Interestingly, xAI representatives did not deny that this behavior occurs with its AI model. In reply, xAI employee Igor Babuschkin wrote, “The issue here is that the web is full of ChatGPT outputs, so we accidentally picked up some of them when we trained Grok on a large amount of web data. This was a huge surprise to us when we first noticed it. For what it’s worth, the issue is very rare and now that we’re aware of it we’ll make sure that future versions of Grok don’t have this problem. Don’t worry, no OpenAI code was used to make Grok.”

In reply to Babuschkin, Winterbourne wrote, “Thanks for the response. I will say it’s not very rare, and occurs quite frequently when involving code creation. Nonetheless, I’ll let people who specialize in LLM and AI weigh in on this further. I’m merely an observer.”

A screenshot of Jax Winterbourne's X post about Grok talking like it's an OpenAI product.

Enlarge / A screenshot of Jax Winterbourne’s X post about Grok talking like it’s an OpenAI product.

Jason Winterbourne

However, Babuschkin’s explanation seems unlikely to some experts because large language models typically do not spit out their training data verbatim, which might be expected if Grok picked up some stray mentions of OpenAI policies here or there on the web. Instead, the concept of denying an output based on OpenAI policies would probably need to be trained into it specifically. And there’s a very good reason why this might have happened: Grok was fine-tuned on output data from OpenAI language models.

“I’m a bit suspicious of the claim that Grok picked this up just because the Internet is full of ChatGPT content,” said AI researcher Simon Willison in an interview with Ars Technica. “I’ve seen plenty of open weights models on Hugging Face that exhibit the same behavior—behave as if they were ChatGPT—but inevitably, those have been fine-tuned on datasets that were generated using the OpenAI APIs, or scraped from ChatGPT itself. I think it’s more likely that Grok was instruction-tuned on datasets that included ChatGPT output than it was a complete accident based on web data.”

As large language models (LLMs) from OpenAI have become more capable, it has been increasingly common for some AI projects (especially open source ones) to fine-tune an AI model output using synthetic data—training data generated by other language models. Fine-tuning adjusts the behavior of an AI model toward a specific purpose, such as getting better at coding, after an initial training run. For example, in March, a group of researchers from Stanford University made waves with Alpaca, a version of Meta’s LLaMA 7B model that was fine-tuned for instruction-following using outputs from OpenAI’s GPT-3 model called text-davinci-003.

On the web you can easily find several open source datasets collected by researchers from ChatGPT outputs, and it’s possible that xAI used one of these to fine-tune Grok for some specific goal, such as improving instruction-following ability. The practice is so common that there’s even a WikiHow article titled, “How to Use ChatGPT to Create a Dataset.”

It’s one of the ways AI tools can be used to build more complex AI tools in the future, much like how people began to use microcomputers to design more complex microprocessors than pen-and-paper drafting would allow. However, in the future, xAI might be able to avoid this kind of scenario by more carefully filtering its training data.

Even though borrowing outputs from others might be common in the machine-learning community (despite it usually being against terms of service), the episode particularly fanned the flames of the rivalry between OpenAI and X that extends back to Elon Musk’s criticism of OpenAI in the past. As news spread of Grok possibly borrowing from OpenAI, the official ChatGPT account wrote, “we have a lot in common” and quoted Winterbourne’s X post. As a comeback, Musk wrote, “Well, son, since you scraped all the data from this platform for your training, you ought to know.”

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