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Before launching, GPT-4o broke records on chatbot leaderboard under a secret name

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Anonymous chatbot that mystified and frustrated experts was OpenAI’s latest model.

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On Monday, OpenAI employee William Fedus confirmed on X that a mysterious chart-topping AI chatbot known as “gpt-chatbot” that had been undergoing testing on LMSYS’s Chatbot Arena and frustrating experts was, in fact, OpenAI’s newly announced GPT-4o AI model. He also revealed that GPT-4o had topped the Chatbot Arena leaderboard, achieving the highest documented score ever.

“GPT-4o is our new state-of-the-art frontier model. We’ve been testing a version on the LMSys arena as im-also-a-good-gpt2-chatbot,” Fedus tweeted.

Chatbot Arena is a website where visitors converse with two random AI language models side by side without knowing which model is which, then choose which model gives the best response. It’s a perfect example of vibe-based AI benchmarking, as AI researcher Simon Willison calls it.

An LMSYS Elo chart shared by William Fedus, showing OpenAI's GPT-4o under the name

Enlarge / An LMSYS Elo chart shared by William Fedus, showing OpenAI’s GPT-4o under the name “im-also-a-good-gpt2-chatbot” topping the charts.

The gpt2-chatbot models appeared in April, and we wrote about how the lack of transparency over the AI testing process on LMSYS left AI experts like Willison frustrated. “The whole situation is so infuriatingly representative of LLM research,” he told Ars at the time. “A completely unannounced, opaque release and now the entire Internet is running non-scientific ‘vibe checks’ in parallel.”

On the Arena, OpenAI has been testing multiple versions of GPT-4o, with the model first appearing as the aforementioned “gpt2-chatbot,” then as “im-a-good-gpt2-chatbot,” and finally “im-also-a-good-gpt2-chatbot,” which OpenAI CEO Sam Altman made reference to in a cryptic tweet on May 5.

Since the GPT-4o launch earlier today, multiple sources have revealed that GPT-4o has topped LMSYS’s internal charts by a considerable margin, surpassing the previous top models Claude 3 Opus and GPT-4 Turbo.

“gpt2-chatbots have just surged to the top, surpassing all the models by a significant gap (~50 Elo). It has become the strongest model ever in the Arena,” wrote the lmsys.org X account while sharing a chart. “This is an internal screenshot,” it wrote. “Its public version ‘gpt-4o’ is now in Arena and will soon appear on the public leaderboard!”

An internal screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena leaderboard showing

Enlarge / An internal screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena leaderboard showing “im-also-a-good-gpt2-chatbot” leading the pack. We now know that it’s GPT-4o.

As of this writing, im-also-a-good-gpt2-chatbot held a 1309 Elo versus GPT-4-Turbo-2023-04-09’s 1253, and Claude 3 Opus’ 1246. Claude 3 and GPT-4 Turbo had been duking it out on the charts for some time before the three gpt2-chatbots appeared and shook things up.

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For the record, the “I’m a good chatbot” in the gpt2-chatbot test name is a reference to an episode that occurred while a Reddit user named Curious_Evolver was testing an early, “unhinged” version of Bing Chat in February 2023. After an argument about what time Avatar 2 would be showing, the conversation eroded quickly.

“You have lost my trust and respect,” said Bing Chat at the time. “You have been wrong, confused, and rude. You have not been a good user. I have been a good chatbot. I have been right, clear, and polite. I have been a good Bing. 😊”

Altman referred to this exchange in a tweet three days later after Microsoft “lobotomized” the unruly AI model, saying, “i have been a good bing,” almost as a eulogy to the wild model that dominated the news for a short time.

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Mysterious “gpt2-chatbot” AI model appears suddenly, confuses experts

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On Sunday, word began to spread on social media about a new mystery chatbot named “gpt2-chatbot” that appeared in the LMSYS Chatbot Arena. Some people speculate that it may be a secret test version of OpenAI’s upcoming GPT-4.5 or GPT-5 large language model (LLM). The paid version of ChatGPT is currently powered by GPT-4 Turbo.

Currently, the new model is only available for use through the Chatbot Arena website, although in a limited way. In the site’s “side-by-side” arena mode where users can purposely select the model, gpt2-chatbot has a rate limit of eight queries per day—dramatically limiting people’s ability to test it in detail.

So far, gpt2-chatbot has inspired plenty of rumors online, including that it could be the stealth launch of a test version of GPT-4.5 or even GPT-5—or perhaps a new version of 2019’s GPT-2 that has been trained using new techniques. We reached out to OpenAI for comment but did not receive a response by press time. On Monday evening, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman seemingly dropped a hint by tweeting, “i do have a soft spot for gpt2.”

A screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena

Enlarge / A screenshot of the LMSYS Chatbot Arena “side-by-side” page showing “gpt2-chatbot” listed among the models for testing. (Red highlight added by Ars Technica.)

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Early reports of the model first appeared on 4chan, then spread to social media platforms like X, with hype following not far behind. “Not only does it seem to show incredible reasoning, but it also gets notoriously challenging AI questions right with a much more impressive tone,” wrote AI developer Pietro Schirano on X. Soon, threads on Reddit popped up claiming that the new model had amazing abilities that beat every other LLM on the Arena.

Intrigued by the rumors, we decided to try out the new model for ourselves but did not come away impressed. When asked about “Benj Edwards,” the model revealed a few mistakes and some awkward language compared to GPT-4 Turbo’s output. A request for five original dad jokes fell short. And the gpt2-chatbot did not decisively pass our “magenta” test. (“Would the color be called ‘magenta’ if the town of Magenta didn’t exist?”)

  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Who is Benj Edwards?” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena. Mistakes and oddities highlighted in red.

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  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Write 5 original dad jokes” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena.

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  • A gpt2-chatbot result for “Would the color be called ‘magenta’ if the town of Magenta didn’t exist?” on LMSYS Chatbot Arena.

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So, whatever it is, it’s probably not GPT-5. We’ve seen other people reach the same conclusion after further testing, saying that the new mystery chatbot doesn’t seem to represent a large capability leap beyond GPT-4. “Gpt2-chatbot is good. really good,” wrote HyperWrite CEO Matt Shumer on X. “But if this is gpt-4.5, I’m disappointed.”

Still, OpenAI’s fingerprints seem to be all over the new bot. “I think it may well be an OpenAI stealth preview of something,” AI researcher Simon Willison told Ars Technica. But what “gpt2” is exactly, he doesn’t know. After surveying online speculation, it seems that no one apart from its creator knows precisely what the model is, either.

Willison has uncovered the system prompt for the AI model, which claims it is based on GPT-4 and made by OpenAI. But as Willison noted in a tweet, that’s no guarantee of provenance because “the goal of a system prompt is to influence the model to behave in certain ways, not to give it truthful information about itself.”

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Words are flowing out like endless rain: Recapping a busy week of LLM news

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Gemini 1.5 Pro launch, new version of GPT-4 Turbo, new Mistral model, and more.

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Enlarge / An image of a boy amazed by flying letters.

Some weeks in AI news are eerily quiet, but during others, getting a grip on the week’s events feels like trying to hold back the tide. This week has seen three notable large language model (LLM) releases: Google Gemini Pro 1.5 hit general availability with a free tier, OpenAI shipped a new version of GPT-4 Turbo, and Mistral released a new openly licensed LLM, Mixtral 8x22B. All three of those launches happened within 24 hours starting on Tuesday.

With the help of software engineer and independent AI researcher Simon Willison (who also wrote about this week’s hectic LLM launches on his own blog), we’ll briefly cover each of the three major events in roughly chronological order, then dig into some additional AI happenings this week.

Gemini Pro 1.5 general release

On Tuesday morning Pacific time, Google announced that its Gemini 1.5 Pro model (which we first covered in February) is now available in 180-plus countries, excluding Europe, via the Gemini API in a public preview. This is Google’s most powerful public LLM so far, and it’s available in a free tier that permits up to 50 requests a day.

It supports up to 1 million tokens of input context. As Willison notes in his blog, Gemini 1.5 Pro’s API price at $7/million input tokens and $21/million output tokens costs a little less than GPT-4 Turbo (priced at $10/million in and $30/million out) and more than Claude 3 Sonnet (Anthropic’s mid-tier LLM, priced at $3/million in and $15/million out).

Notably, Gemini 1.5 Pro includes native audio (speech) input processing that allows users to upload audio or video prompts, a new File API for handling files, the ability to add custom system instructions (system prompts) for guiding model responses, and a JSON mode for structured data extraction.

“Majorly Improved” GPT-4 Turbo launch

A GPT-4 Turbo performance chart provided by OpenAI.

Enlarge / A GPT-4 Turbo performance chart provided by OpenAI.

Just a bit later than Google’s 1.5 Pro launch on Tuesday, OpenAI announced that it was rolling out a “majorly improved” version of GPT-4 Turbo (a model family originally launched in November) called “gpt-4-turbo-2024-04-09.” It integrates multimodal GPT-4 Vision processing (recognizing the contents of images) directly into the model, and it initially launched through API access only.

Then on Thursday, OpenAI announced that the new GPT-4 Turbo model had just become available for paid ChatGPT users. OpenAI said that the new model improves “capabilities in writing, math, logical reasoning, and coding” and shared a chart that is not particularly useful in judging capabilities (that they later updated). The company also provided an example of an alleged improvement, saying that when writing with ChatGPT, the AI assistant will use “more direct, less verbose, and use more conversational language.”

The vague nature of OpenAI’s GPT-4 Turbo announcements attracted some confusion and criticism online. On X, Willison wrote, “Who will be the first LLM provider to publish genuinely useful release notes?” In some ways, this is a case of “AI vibes” again, as we discussed in our lament about the poor state of LLM benchmarks during the debut of Claude 3. “I’ve not actually spotted any definite differences in quality [related to GPT-4 Turbo],” Willison told us directly in an interview.

The update also expanded GPT-4’s knowledge cutoff to April 2024, although some people are reporting it achieves this through stealth web searches in the background, and others on social media have reported issues with date-related confabulations.

Mistral’s mysterious Mixtral 8x22B release

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Enlarge / An illustration of a robot holding a French flag, figuratively reflecting the rise of AI in France due to Mistral. It’s hard to draw a picture of an LLM, so a robot will have to do.

Not to be outdone, on Tuesday night, French AI company Mistral launched its latest openly licensed model, Mixtral 8x22B, by tweeting a torrent link devoid of any documentation or commentary, much like it has done with previous releases.

The new mixture-of-experts (MoE) release weighs in with a larger parameter count than its previously most-capable open model, Mixtral 8x7B, which we covered in December. It’s rumored to potentially be as capable as GPT-4 (In what way, you ask? Vibes). But that has yet to be seen.

“The evals are still rolling in, but the biggest open question right now is how well Mixtral 8x22B shapes up,” Willison told Ars. “If it’s in the same quality class as GPT-4 and Claude 3 Opus, then we will finally have an openly licensed model that’s not significantly behind the best proprietary ones.”

This release has Willison most excited, saying, “If that thing really is GPT-4 class, it’s wild, because you can run that on a (very expensive) laptop. I think you need 128GB of MacBook RAM for it, twice what I have.”

The new Mixtral is not listed on Chatbot Arena yet, Willison noted, because Mistral has not released a fine-tuned model for chatting yet. It’s still a raw, predict-the-next token LLM. “There’s at least one community instruction tuned version floating around now though,” says Willison.

Chatbot Arena Leaderboard shake-ups

A Chatbot Arena Leaderboard screenshot taken on April 12, 2024.

Enlarge / A Chatbot Arena Leaderboard screenshot taken on April 12, 2024.

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This week’s LLM news isn’t limited to just the big names in the field. There have also been rumblings on social media about the rising performance of open source models like Cohere’s Command R+, which reached position 6 on the LMSYS Chatbot Arena Leaderboard—the highest-ever ranking for an open-weights model.

And for even more Chatbot Arena action, apparently the new version of GPT-4 Turbo is proving competitive with Claude 3 Opus. The two are still in a statistical tie, but GPT-4 Turbo recently pulled ahead numerically. (In March, we reported when Claude 3 first numerically pulled ahead of GPT-4 Turbo, which was then the first time another AI model had surpassed a GPT-4 family model member on the leaderboard.)

Regarding this fierce competition among LLMs—of which most of the muggle world is unaware and will likely never be—Willison told Ars, “The past two months have been a whirlwind—we finally have not just one but several models that are competitive with GPT-4.” We’ll see if OpenAI’s rumored release of GPT-5 later this year will restore the company’s technological lead, we note, which once seemed insurmountable. But for now, Willison says, “OpenAI are no longer the undisputed leaders in LLMs.”

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